More lame mala questions!

[Joey]

Hi all

Let me just re-iterate that questioning the teachers of others in a disrespectful way has been frowned upon by Rinpoche. If 1 teacher is questionable then the next one would be questionable, and when would that stop?

Sandy, hurling insults and accusations no matter how pleasant they sound is still an accusation and an insult. You're already into Buddhism for almost a year, yet you have not learnt the basic fundamentals. If only you had read up on some books beforehand, this would not have happened. Why have you not learnt anything from so many postings here? None of your reasonings will work. At this point i am not sure if your apology would too. Misread or not you still doubted a teacher of another person. Nothing can hide that fact, its in your postings. Sorry to say but your apology is insincere as it still insists that you're not in the wrong.

You may be able to explain yourself here but you cannot justify your  actions to Karma. Rinpoche had mentioned in his talks before that those who criticize the teachers of others will be separated from their teacher and gain no attainments. There are no perfect teachers in this world, so if SNN's teacher is questionable so can everyone elses' be. Perhaps, its time to think about the magnitude of your words?

SNN may have overreacted, but insulting or questioning the teacher of another is not of Buddhist conduct.

Please refrain from questioning the teachers of others, especially in front of them especially in a way which discredits them. In Tibetan Buddhism, insulting or discrediting a practitioner's Guru is considered very serious, and it is in the vows of the practitioner to not associate with people who discredit or show no respect to their teacher.

Spirit, please do calm down and apply some compassion towards sandy. he's still a newbie. You can choose to ignore his posts, but i am sure he will have learnt his lesson on what to say and what not to say. Do give him and the community another chance. The picture and that strong worded post is not necessary and it does represent what little results your practice has yield, as the proper response would be to explain in kind words to that person about your teacher, and if that person refuses to listen, you are to abandon him or her. This has been taught by Rinpoche as well.

Goat, study and plwk: what SNN did was quite justifiable there is no need to "side" the forum that what SNN did was outrageous etc. What sandy did was outrageous, and SNN obviously overreacted with strong words, and i would have removed that picture had i seen it, but there is no need for dramatic siding here. we're all friends learning and supporting each other (in many ways more than one) so there is no need for this kind of talk. Be neutral.

[wmw111]

From a mala questions it went to this issue.
Ok lets see what can we learn from this.

Within Tibetan tradition the Guru is the pith of the guru, the guru is the source of all our teachings and realizations. Hence the Guru is very central to our practice. One guru may not be beneficial to us, but may be benefit to some others. If we bring any disrepute to any teachers, then our forum is no different than E-sangha who constantly criticized this teacher, this monk and etc , and mind you some of this people are not even holding vows, not learned, not practiced by have the audacity to criticize even people who have proven they hold vows and so forth.  You can say what you like outside of this forum but not on the Tsemtulku forum.

If you do it once , you will be given warning , then I will ban you for some time, if still persists I will delete your account from the forum.
‘With the greatest of respect, your Lama seems to be extremely questionable in terms of authenticity and character.  Just to give an example, he appears here: ‘
This statement puts a doubt about a particular teacher, many people in the past in Buddhist circles in Malaysia have due to their delusions and some with negative motive criticized Rinpoche , and some people due to unstable minds or even something less that what Sandy have said have left Rinpoche and caused other people to leave Rinpoche. ‘That Rinpoche has hair !’  and all kinds of stupid things.

We have to protect people’s minds, some people are very fragile, even some small/minute  thing can throw them off the path off a guru. Very small things can turn people off a guru or path. We have to protect their minds. You can say what you like outside I can’t stop you but not on this forum.

Sandy you have been warned!  

I don’t know what picture SNN has posted, for Todd to delete it twice, SNN it shows your lack of respect for the moderators and the way you answered Sandy, shows your lack of practice. Is that how your guru taught you to write like that ? Maybe its karma coming back to you from how you addressed my lama.  You posted obscene pictures ! You are out of this forum now!

Joey, stop riding the high horse with Sandy, you are out of the Kechara organization, you will miss KWPC if you still want to ride your horse. No more words from you Joey, only your actions will count . No actions/result no KWPC for you.

Thank you Goat for deleting the picture and your vigilance.

[wmw111]

Rules and regulations of the forum are here
http://www.tsemtulku.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.0

[waybackhome83]

Hey Wai Meng,

I'm still not sure where I implied, or criticised, Spirit's lama.  To point out something that's a fact doesn't mean one implies anything - unless one agrees with whatever has been pointed out (which I didn't do).  If I were to say, "Hey guys, someone has said Rinpoche has hair and that's wrong for a Lama", it doesn't mean I agree with that, does it? 

But yes, posing something off-tangent on a thread isn't really of great benefit to anyone; that was silly of me, and I apologised more than once for causing any unintentional offence to Spirit; I think my point at the time was to remind people that anything might not be what it appears, and should be checked out and examined - I was very careful to point out (three times) that my posting was in no way a reflection of Spirit's teacher.

I'd be lying if I said I fully agree with the removal of what I've written, but I respect the forum rules and will be more diligent in posting only what is acceptable to the forum from now on.

Kind regards,
Sandy

[Crazywisdom]

When my mala string broke, i think it was a cotton or natural fibre, i replaced it with some nylon or synthetic string. I have tied a knot between each bead the same as it was when new. The benefit of this is that when it broke the first time, only one bead could fall off.

The beads are rose wood. If you had crystal or stone beads i would think some thin stainless steel braided wire would last well. I gave my mum a wrist mala with green stone beads that had a stainless string.

There are many online shops selling such supplies.

Jon 

[Duke Okkelberg]

I have a lame mala question:

I recieved a red mala from Rinpoche as a gift. Do you know if this particular mala has any definitive qualities that are specific to this mala. I think that the mala is either red coral or something similar I am not sure.

[Crazywisdom]

I've found a qoute from Gyatrul Rinpoche saying that  a red coral mala is best for accomplishing powerful sadhanas. I'm sure i had read a good explanation of the different materials for malas but can't find it now  

There is a talk on  youtube by Rinpoche http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHdbLJo2kPs

Jon  

[wmw111]

Hey Sandy,
Just to close off this issue, the off tangent thing isn't a concern at all.

One can question a teacher all they want , but not in a public domain like this forum. According to how E-division of Kechara would like how this should be run.

By bringing up links or news about a certain teacher , no matter how we disclaim how accurate the information can be or is,  this is does not discount the fact that this action can create a seed of doubt in people's minds. Yes people should have the right to decide for themselves. But in the interest of protecting the minds of peoples minds, some people's minds, are very fragile and can easily be swayed, very very small/insignificant things can throw them off , they do not need any other things to throw them off a lineage teacher and so forth. They have enough obstacles to dharma practice. My position stays the same no postings about teachers on the forum that even hint at a deficiency of their character or lineage.

In the past in another forum many lay people even criticize Rinpoche and people who have robes , and once they start bashing one teacher, it just does not stop. Yes there are fake teachers out there, and if they read Gurus for Hire they will probably know how to spot one or at the very least know how to check. As  Rinpoche spoke about things that people want to know and is considered somewhat sensitive that made up the book gurus for Hire. 

Rinpoche also mentioned in his talk gurus for hire, if through one's actions, we throw someone away from their teacher are we capable to take care of this person who just severed ties with their lamas / teachers etc.