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SharpPudding
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« on: January 07, 2011, 07:04:57 PM »

 Anyone else have a hang up or a hang up solution to meditating in the morning?

 Like,.. I can make offerings, do prostrations, but meditate before 9pm? No way. And it's been consistent since I started doing meditation, unless it's like a all day practice, I might intend to do it at a particular time but I always seem to lean to doing prayers and stuff around 3am when everyone else is asleep.

 In the day time I'm just too anxious but after people start going to bed I feel so much better and clearer, ready to actually sit down. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2011, 09:09:49 PM »

My personal schedule has led me to do my daily prayer before sleep, however that time is about 5 AM.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 11:46:02 PM »

Namaste,

I think a little more information might be beneficial before I would attempt to offer suggestions. WHY are you too anxious to meditate during the day? What is the root? For myself, I had trouble meditating around people so I went to the food court at the local mall for a couple weeks to meditate. Silence can be found in the greatest din... once one begins to listen for the silence in the midst of the din.

If it is an overload of physical energy, perhaps walking meditation would be useful. The fact that  you can actually DO an all-day sitting suggests that it is more a lack of personal discipline. In which case, making a firm resolve to do it JUST TODAY, might be the answer. Then, tomorrow, you will have done it before and lived through it, so perhaps, JUST TODAY, you can do it again. Start with a short time period and set a timer. After you've done it in short for a couple weeks, start building the time by 5 minute increments.

[url]http://www.mindfulnessdc.org/mindfulclock.html/url] This is a wonderful, free meditation timer. I've been using it for years.

The benefit to meditating in the morning is that it sets the mood for the day. In much the same way that stubbing your toe just out of bed can set the day off "wrong", meditating sets it off "right" and is like breakfast for one's Awareness.

May these words be of benefit.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 12:58:36 AM »

I think it is just a matter of self discipline. The anxiety is from other people, once everyone wakes up the atmosphere changes and it makes me kinda nervous. I can hear people walking outside, I can hear people inside the house, dogs are moving around the house, cars are driving past, and even the air seems to be different, everyone is turning on their electronics and the air is full of "sssssss" electrical sound. When the electricity goes out in the neighborhood it is so nice, it's like being in the wilderness and all that electrical noise and feeling goes away. None of these are good excuses to not meditate in the morning, but that's part of the reason for the anxiety.

 I need to just deal with it now though before I get commitments for it.

 Maybe I should move to to the mountains or somewhere there's not much of the psychic, electrical, chemical, and sound pollution lol. (daydreams)
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 09:34:02 AM »

For anyone having problems with their meditation, I can't recommend enough "Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond" by Ajahn Brahm. It's pretty much an "idiots guide" to meditation and talks a lot about what can hinder meditation practice and how to overcome those hindrances. From the book:

"(Hindrances) obstruct or weaken wisdom and stengthen delusion. So if one is going to say anything in Buddhism about the enemies to meditation, one can say that the five hindrances are Public Enemy Number One. They stop people from becoming enlightened and it's precisely for this reason that understanding these five hindrances and overcoming them is crucial. When you don't fully understand them, you cannot overcome them."

The five hindrances (and how to overcome them) as described by Ajahn Brahm are:

1. Sensory Desire  2. Ill Will (can be towards oneself)  3. Sloth and Torpor  4. Restlessness and Remorse.  5. Doubt

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 05:26:42 PM »

I did my first 3 sessions and puja today at 1pm which is almost AM lol. Making a little effort at least.
I would really love to do most of my practices in the morning before the sun comes up like a lot of serious practitioners do. It's just so COLD that early.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 09:40:03 AM »

I have had the same problem.  I am not a morning person at all, and I totally understand what you mean about the cold, lol.  To make matters worse, I would end up with insomnia if I planned to wake up early to do meditation...
My advise is just to make a strong determination to do it, and just do it, no matter what... Like Kai said, just start a short period of meditation, don't try to do your whole practice in the morning.  It will be overwhelming, but if you start with a short practice and gradually build on that you will see how that sets a tone of mindfulness for the whole day, and you will start to want to get up early and meditate... at least that has how it has worked for me... 
Also, on a practical level, take a warm shower when you wake up, and then maybe do some yoga stretches first (maybe Surya Namaskara) if you know how to do that, have a nice meditation area set up so you can sit comfortably, with a nice warm blanket or shawl to wrap around you while you sit Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 11:26:38 AM »

Good thing you're not in the Sufi religion, they get up at 3 am and take a COLD shower--and not just a get in, get out type--they shower until the cold feels warm. Then they do their prayers and meditations. Brrr....
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 02:54:53 PM »

Wow Kai,..  Sufis,...

Ivy,.. the blanket is a good idea,.. I never really thought of that,..

 Today I haven't done my morning practice. I'm about to though, I just am waiting for the tea to finish brewing so I can do the puja at the same time. It's 4:37pm right now, much closer to morning than usual. I woke up really late today too because it's Sunday Tongue

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 08:25:37 PM »

for me wind imbalance problems keep giving me insomia and preventing me from meditating: every time i try my head spins (indicating wind problem)

it goes away with some meds but the med is quite heaty and i cant take it right now as i am having sore throat (will worsen). also getting more anxiety and restlessness.

oh well purification i guess. have to find a way out of the whirlwind!
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 11:14:36 PM »

I hope your winds correct and your body heals.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 09:37:42 PM »

 Joey, you know the winds can be controlled through mentally or physically. And it wouldn't be a waste of time to develop that. The movement of the winds is a huge deal for everyone whether they realize it or not and you don't exactly need to wait for a expert tantrika to give you instructions. Heat, cold, sound, pains, pleasures, mind, taste and smell are all senses that rely on the winds. People always make a big deal out of the rupa because it seems so dominant, but all your senses and ability to move are due to the winds.

 Even little kids can learn to control their winds and enter concentration, heal their body, correct all sorts of disturbances of their mind, you just need someone to encourage you to pay close attention to your sensations.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 11:43:03 PM »

Joey, you know the winds can be controlled through mentally or physically. And it wouldn't be a waste of time to develop that. The movement of the winds is a huge deal for everyone whether they realize it or not and you don't exactly need to wait for a expert tantrika to give you instructions. Heat, cold, sound, pains, pleasures, mind, taste and smell are all senses that rely on the winds. People always make a big deal out of the rupa because it seems so dominant, but all your senses and ability to move are due to the winds.

 Even little kids can learn to control their winds and enter concentration, heal their body, correct all sorts of disturbances of their mind, you just need someone to encourage you to pay close attention to your sensations.


and due to the disturbance the senses are severely affected.

I am looking into adjusting my nutrition as well as finding ways to break my mind from looping and rechannel the rogue wind energy.

btw you can lock your own  topics. In case you posted an embarassing topic and you wish to stop feedback.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2011, 11:48:22 PM »

Ah good, I'm always saying embarrassing things haha
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 05:36:59 AM »

Sharp,
can you point me to more information about this?  I am interested in learning more.
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