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D.Ogyen
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« on: January 26, 2011, 12:44:01 PM »

This is meant for introspection rather than advice, just to put a frame around it 

From where do you draw your motivation for ongoing practice? I know as a Mahayana we'll say bodhicitta and as a Vajrayana practitioner we'll say the guru. But I mean aside from that, what keeps you going with your practice and what keeps you interested in Buddhism as a whole? Habit? Devotion? Love? Academic interest? Healthy attachment?

I'm interested in your thoughts.

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 01:11:46 PM »

Sometimes I'm motivated by bodhicitta.
At this point in my life I'm motivated a lot by habitual energy, I've chosen my direction and without much effort I continue to go that way.
When these fail and I consider pursuing a worldly life, but the futility and pointlessness of that kind of endevor crushes my motivation and if I don't focus on something that is more worthwhile I will eventually become comatose from depression.

 So ultimately, the main cause for me is my dissatisfaction with samsara. The reason I pursue Vajrayana is because I know even if I get personal liberation that there's still suffering even if it's not mine specifically.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 01:24:45 PM »

Sometimes I ask my self that very question.  Why do I keep on returning to my seat? why do I keep on picking up that mala?  For me it is the fact that I know the only way to change what is around me is to change myself. and by changing myself all around me will change(although nothing really does)
My deep wanting to know more about the dharma is another reason I keep going.  The fact that I have Buddha images all over my room keeps me going as a reminder. 

But in the end, I think what gives me my motivation are all the Gurus and teachers who tireless work to benefit others. It really is awe inspiring for me.

 
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 01:34:54 PM »

I've reflected quite a bit on what keeps practice going in this life of mine that has no Buddhists in it...  It's very challenging to keep a solid practice when nothing around you really encourages a Buddhist expression, so perhaps out of necessity, I can't just make it seem like I know Buddhism because no one around me can correct me.  So instead, I try to relate to the people in my life in terms of dharma without buddhisms that might throw off the average Mexican catholic.  

I try to relate the dharma in real experience because in words and books it's so pretty, but that alone is not so useful to me.   I need something I can share and connect with other sentient beings.  Kindness works well.  And I'm so happy that dharma's core is kindness.

This is what little insight I've gained on what keeps my own inner practice going, I have like a compulsion or fastening to dharma and it feels like it took a lot of work to have this little, so of course, I want to grow the little I have into as much as possible before it's time to go.

What drives me above all - I love the human heart and everything that resides in it, from its suffering to its joy because it's a part of being.  I used to feel very frustrated with being alive.  It felt struggled.  Then I learned some important tools that helped me release tensions that build inside.  

Now I love the richness of experience regardless of pain or pleasure. I think it's my desire for experience that keeps me chained to rebirth, that I love this richness.  It's so thick, this openness of the moment, in this being you can reach deep in instants if you've dug the debris from your well so that you can.   Even in my worst moments, where I used to panic mindlessly, now I can stop in the midst of the panic and suddenly really breathe in the fullness of  this awfulness, and while I'm not crazy about the discomfort, there's a part of me that is just calm because on some level of my mind I've accepted that the discomfort is as natural as the joy.  Pain and pleasure ever entwined.  To buy into one or the other is to get scammed by your senses, and really, there's more to this being than just the senses.  I've grown up that way.  And now when I panic, I pause and breathe.  If I'm still here, I'm still fine to experience it all.  With no moral discrimination, letting it be what it is while maintaining my focus on the essence of this moment.  What is the heart of right now?

What keeps me going is the fullness of everything, because I'm starting to realize that whether I love or hate reality, its completeness is the experiencing itself.  Sometimes... there is no ending just a progressing.  I've seen a lot less endings since learning of interdependent arising.   I find when I can pause in the very now-ness of what is most needed, what really satisfies me most is just experiencing it.  The heart of your experience feels like the heart of my desire.  It's the longing of life itself.  Wanting to just be.  Free.  Here.  But Free.  How silly of me.  

When I see where my craving goes, I see its origin.  When I see its origin, the craving becomes something I desire to abandon.  It's a curious phenomenon, I've observed recently.  I don't know that anyone can tell you for you, you know when you feel that bliss of joy in simplicity that comes with being a leaf, at any time ready to fall from its branch.  It occurred to me, what keeps me going is the touching into the very heart of any experience I have, if I'm ready to look at it honestly and without a story.

Life is that tenuous and that strong. I always like its people, the connecting, the touching of hearts, talking and entering each other's paradigm, an intimacy of mind with the very special opportunity to hurt less by trusting more and then communicating.

I don't know about Buddhisms too much. I'm very ignorant and study hard what I find online. But I have a fine grasp of a continuous goodness that permeates my being, and I help those who need, give shelter to those who need, help in any way I can so long as I draw breath in my chest. I feel anyone can do these things. I have taken formal refuge with a Nyingmapa teacher, but he is far and I am mostly without teachers I know of near me. So for the most part, I am wrestling with the solitude of strength these days.

I know it is in my nature, I don't know how exactly but I'm finding out. Like my dog doesn't know the scientific principles and facts about how he reproduces except how to do it, when he goes in heat. In a way, being alive is like always being in heat, desiring longing for something, if not breath itself.  Like my dogs, I don't know how I awaken, I've had parts kind of come to fruition on their own.  And the rest is dormant in layers of pregnant ignorance.

I'm learning HOW to wake up into the next evolution of this now.   How to do it is dharma.  I've been blessed with such rich capabilities of understanding, to not cultivate them fully would be irresponsible for what I've vowed in my heart: the liberation of all sentient beings from the bondage of their suffering.  Ay, what an ambition.  The challenge remains.  How to grow my inner Buddha one breath at a time.  

I know dharma because I know human kindness and warmth.  I know dharma because there is the wisdom that questions the conditioned in me, and even though I don't have a teacher who follows my studies, I know Dharma is method, proper action to correct the bad habits that give us pain.  Dharma teaches us to cure our own ills without reaching outside of ourselves for comfort. Grasping is diminished when self-importance reduces, has been my own natural experience.  When the time is ripe, all things blossom.  

I find myself really caring about what pushes you.  I thought I'd contribute as well since I asked the question... lol.

Sincerely,
D. Ogyen
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 04:18:36 PM »

And just to add; I think what keeps me going is: returning back to the everyday.  I think a lot of people think that Buddhist practice is something special that will take you away to some other perfect existence. But instead I see Buddhist practice as returning to everyday life, which is where life actually happens.  It is making the ordinary; divine and the divine ordinary.  (Which is special)

What keeps me going is learning how to see the world exactly as it is and being able to smile back at it.

Thank you for giving me to chance to think about this.

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 08:16:23 PM »

YES!!  That is precisely what I think too.  The divine and ordinary are not separated by anything but the  human eyes that look at them.   Can you see the buddhanature in the dirty face though?  Whose face isn't dirty with the dramas of everyday.  Can you still poke through that shining divinity that is simple and connecting?  That's what also always keeps me coming back. 

Thank you !! 
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 02:24:13 AM »

Namaste,

The day I was born, I jumped off a cliff. I've been falling to my death now for 47 years. Someday, I will hit bottom. Everything and everyone around me is also falling from the cliff. For a while, I looked at how most of the people around me would throw ropes around different things and pull what they roped in and tie it to themselves so that all would fall together. I did it too, for a while. Heck, I didn't even know that everything was falling to their deaths, I was just doing like I had been taught: toss the lasso and reel it in, tie it off so that I could use it while I fell.

I think, on some level, I knew that we were all falling o our deaths and was scared of it. I made up stories to explain why, if I let of of a rope holding something close it would immediately float away. I didn't realize that the wind of the fall would cause it to fall at a different speed. I just noticed that as soon as the rope slipped, POOF, it was gone. As I was falling, I noticed one guy who was playing with the air passing him. He'd float, and then dive, turn summersaults, then kind of glide back and forth. It looked like fun, but something was different about him; he didn't have stuff tied to him. There was nothing there but his body and whatever happened to be around at the time, falling at the same speed for a while.

I asked him how he fell so gracefully and in such a joyous fashion when we were both headed toward the rocks below. He said, "Well, there's no way I can stop the fall, so I decided I'd rather fly and enjoy the view as I come in for a landing. Having never landed before that I recall, I'll give it my best shot. By practicing all these things up here, I figure I'll stand a better chance of making a landing when the time comes. Besides, it's fun!" So, he taught me that by crossing my legs on a passing pillow, I was able to release some of what I had spent years tying to me--to stabilize the fall. Silly me.

In time, I had released enough of the ropes that I was able to do some of the fun acrobatics that I once saw him do. I had cleared the space around me so that I had the room to glide and play on the wind that was flowing past my ears. Like him, I began practicing my landing. Hey! Even if I don't survive the landing, it'll be fun trying!

As I continue to fall, I look around at other people also falling to their deaths. They grab this and that, hoping that it will somehow help them stop the fall that they do their best to ignore. Sometimes, they get so good at tricking themselves that they forget, for a moment, that they're plunging downward at a fatal speed because they've tied so much to themselves that everything SEEMS to be still, not falling at all. But if you've watched the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote, you'll know that they're is always something to remind us that the ground is fast approaching. What I think is silly is when people FIGHT and kill each other just for the right to tie something else to themselves. Isn't that just silly?

Was thinking about war today; a great way to win it is just be patient. In 100-125 years, everyone who knows first-hand why there's a fight will have hit the ground. 

So, I guess one might say that the reason I keep coming back is, why not? It's a good way to make sure all the landing gear is working. Hey! I wonder if I'll bounce! Grin

Enjoy the flight! Oh! Here's a tip: I heard that the view at the end of this flight is KILLER! Make sure you have your eyes open, we only "land" this particular plane once!

Om Shanti

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 06:14:18 PM »

Sometimes, i wake up in the morning and i dont wanna do Dharma practice

When that happens, i look into the mirror and say "you're Rinpoche's student, bitch. you have a responsibility to represent him properly"

and for the entire day, my chances of misbehaving are so much lessened

If you're a Buddhist, replace "Rinpoche's Student" with "A Buddhist". The effect will be the same. When we call ourselves a Buddhist and we misbehave we turn others away. When that  happens less people would be able to experience what Buddhism has to offer and not be liberated. Plus, behaving well benefits everyone else that we are involved with.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 02:41:31 AM »

Thats quite funny Joey, yes if I give up so can my Lama Smiley
OK I'll try to remember what you said here, yes its been said before about representing rinpoche correctly.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2011, 10:48:03 PM »

LOL @ Joey
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