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« on: August 13, 2012, 10:16:49 AM »

A story from the sharing of Madam Tan, she was talking about her experiences of  helping prisoners at Batu Gajah Prison. She told this story about Karma in relation to her own experience.

She first had a dream about three tortoises being boiled in soup. When she woke up she felt it was a sign something relate to karma.

So she asked her friend to prepare animals to be saved and released. She volunteered to help during the animals liberation. Her friend got a huge turtle for her in a gunny sack, and this lady wanted to handle the huge turtle and as she was trying to get the turtle out, she stuck her hand in to the gunny sack, and the turtle bit  into one of her finger. She then thought of the Chinese folk tale that turtles do not release a bite until there is thunder. Probably panicking she jerked her finger and she lost flesh and her bones were prorufding for one finger. It was very painful of course.

So she went to a hospital near Kuala Kangsar where the animal liberation was being held and the doctor there did not treat her and got her to get help from a male nurse. This male nurse gave her an antibiotic shots. That night her despite it being bandaged her whole hand was swollen and she was in terrible pain she was trying to chant mantras to help herself but it was to no avail.

The next morning she could not bear it any more and had to call her sons. Her 2nd son who was a doctor told her she should get this or that medicine. On that day it was a public holiday so she had to go around driving and looking for pharmacists using one hand to drive and in pain. She found the drugs she was recommended  but that was no help.

The next day her elder son came down from KL to fetch her up to KL. She went to meet her 2nd son and when the son unravelled the bandage the wound was black and he told his mum no way but need to cut the flesh and bone of the sceptic part.

So begin the first operation to cut away the flesh under anasthetic,  after the drugs wore off she felt tremendous pain, and two days after when they checked the wound they had to cut again and this time even before the drugs came into effect the doctor cut into flesh and bone. And two days after that there was third and final operation on her finger.  So three operations for the three tortoises that was boiled for soup. She tells this story all the time to illustrate that we can never escape our karma.

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 04:32:45 AM »

we cant escape karma but is there any possible way to change bad karma to good karma?
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 03:56:41 AM »

Now it may seem as if I am going to contradict myself but here goes.

Karma that we have committed before, if unpurified will certainly manifest when the conditions are right.

But if can somehow purify our karma before the karma starts to manifest then we can certainly change or lessen the karma. Dont we want that. Purification practices will be effective with the four opponent powers in place.

Below is one kind of purification practices there are many others too ....
http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/prayers-and-sadhanas/sadhana-prayers.html#13
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 04:48:40 AM »

During one of the teachings given at one of the retreat (Setrap retreat, if I remember correctly) in 2011, Rinpoche taught about why it's important to purify karma. Like when you know there's a stream up the hill and during monsoon, the water will crush the village below, purification is like prepare ahead and divert the water so you don't feel the impact or the impact is less. (not in exact words, just what I can remember in my mind).
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