Can you ask your guru for help, on my behalf

[kaimlove]

Hi guys,

I am writing this as an effort to understand whats happening and just trying to break free from this, whatever it is.

I cant tell the whole thing here , its just too long.

So, here's what happened , my whole family suffered from a huge amount of bad luck or misfortune, extreme amount of bad things happened. blah blah blah and since then I have been trying to get up and get something done, everybody is trying  but we get stuck or something happens.
then I said why not the tarot  thing. And the person depicted what happened around two year ago from the time I asked her, with very good and high accuracy, there is no way that she or anyone could have known that from my smiling face and its not even a lucky guess. She says she feels a lil black magic, but we do an aura scan and no black magic , but my other body parts were shown as a bit over worked and those particular ones were.
Now all that chanting was offering me protection , but even i felt something was wrong.
And she tells me its someone doing black magic from my fathers side, now thats quite possible.
however,  i go to this other guy who just couldnt have met her, tells me the exact same thing.
They both also refuse to tell me exactly who was responsible, and said if they tell me it would cause bad karma.
and guy even sort of smiled while saying that as if it was funny.

Now its easy to tell someone that but think of it as your father is in pain and so is your whole family you watch and think and you see and you watch for years, you watch and someone tells you why for no reason people hate you even though you never treated them wrong, is because of "some"one and they wont tell you who in particular.
How does that feel ?
if the tables were reversed, perhaps the feelings would have been a bit different???

anyways, I moved on from that place and still trying to get things right, i face new problems, and some weird things like i go for an interview i know i will get through and suddenly i feel i bit tired(not exactly ) and i see my wrist watch has stopped and the interviewer says you are better than me but you have to work on the conversation thing, wow, and i dont get the job. ok no problem i will find other ways, but things just get stuck, like as if someone pressed thge pause button, and the latest weird thing is : my mobile phone for no apparent reason comes out of standby mode (screen lights up) automatically, exactly at midnight 0000hrs. Now thats weird.

also one scary experience was, at one outing , while i was sleeping,  I felt someone from behind trying to grab me and I tried to move my hands, but i couldnt move them in a forcible way, as if i had no strength in me, and then i felt that thing sink its teeth on my right shoulder just near the neck, and i felt my energy draining away as if it was sucking my life away, and just when i felt I was loosing my last bit of life just at that second, I remembered one word Avlokiteshvar, and in a very faint voice I said Avlokiteshvar ,  and suddenly I am out of it like in a flash, and i am up and my hands feel the normal again , except for that spot where it was sucking on me,  and it felt weird there for at least two days.  The morning felt different that day.  Also i narrated this to the second guy i mentioned above, he said it was a psychic attack a form of black magic thing.

Thats just one of the things,
and my sister she keeps on getting sick all the time, I mean she cannot even eat the normal stuff she is like ill most of the time, and only after she read a book or two about Buddhism and some of my advice she has improved a bit but not soo much.

and after nearly seeing my whole life go away in front of my eyes, i am almost open to anything. soon i will be 30 and boy it feels bad to be without anyone around that you can speak a word or two in an open sort of way.

So if anyone can find any help or any advice it will be a nice thing to do.


Thanks in advance.

May all be well and happy!
Om Mani Padme Hum!

[John]

The only advice I could give you is to repeat as many times as you can protective mantras like this ones:
http://www.tsemtulku.com/V03/dharma/buddhas/Vajrapani.php
http://www.tsemtulku.com/V03/dharma/buddhas/Setrap.php
http://www.tsemtulku.com/V03/dharma/buddhas/Mahakala.php
and of course OM MANI PADME HUM

May you and your family be well!

[spiritnoname]

 This question isn't directed at me at all, but maybe you could put more effort into learning the Buddha's teachings and putting them into practice. Using counter practices is fine, but if you don't get rid of the cause of troubles you're even worse off because you wasted your time thinking all you had to do was propitiate a deity.

[Trekcho]

If you find yourself in these kind of circumstances, you probably should know that you have inadvertantly brought some of it upon yourself by indiscriminantly shopping yourself around amongst psychics/healers/aura readers/other dangerous/misled people of questionable spiritual cultivation and even more questionable motivation. It reminds me of a story of an old Dharma friend of mine from Singapore who had fallen in with some teacher who was instructing people in some questionable form of chi-gong. The lasting result, much to my friends dismay, was that he was no longer able to dream, or at least to remember such, even though he'd had a rich dream life prior. I don't know how he got rid of the problem, if ever. If  you are Buddhist you could request a personal meeting with a Lama, such as Tsem Tulku if you are able to get to Malaysia. If not, then seek out a reputable Lama in your area. They generally can give solid advice on how to approach such problems.

[wmw111]

Dear All,
Rinpoche is educated in the west despite that he has seen too many cases of black magic or spirit possession and he came out with a manual on what you can do .

I will email to kaimlove this manual, however if the problem persists please come to Setrap Puja happening on Mondays and Tuesdays at the center.  The manual tells you how to identify spirit possession and black magic.
yes karma is the ultimate protector and if you can meditate on ultimate truth , nothing can harm you , but before we can do things like that , if we are afflicted already we need to get help. Purifying one's karma can help , but can you purify fast enough before this manifestation of karma harmed you irreversibly. People who come under spirit possession eventually it damages their mind and they go crazy .


Setrap can work miracles , and Rinpoche said many times , most tibetan lamas when they come to new countries they only have their suitcases , due to their vows and motivation to spread the dharma , the protectors help them grow very very fast . Deity practices are not to be underestimated ., and setrap has helped many beings.remove obstacles , black magic , spirits and etc in our center . please do not treat it as mumbo jumbo . The high monks and Rinpoche in gaden depend on Setrap  , do we think these beings don't know what they are relying on . Come on .  Setrap is especially to help us overcome our worldly problems and obstacles, however if we are helped we carry on doing negative things or harming others . Why help someone who will carry on doing negativities?

I have studied my degree in London in one of the top universities in the world and its an engineering course also . I have also experienced Setrap swiftness in helping in the Ladrang, I would not doubt Setrap capabilities as he is an emanation of Amitabha  or other protectors practiced by monks of Gaden.   



 

[kaimlove]

I would like to clarify a few things, first i am in India, Mumbai.

second , well I never believed in any black magic at all, and maybe thats why I may have been able to have some protection, but, after things just got really worse, even though the tarot reader said you were for total destruction, but some female power was protecting you, thats why you and your family are alive.  And she said whatever happened to you , was nothing compared to what was to happen actually, and I am telling you whatever happened was really a lot, so i cant even dare to imagine even worse.

And the incidents that I have written about happened before i went to see this tarot reader, as the thing that happened at the outing was like , now thats enough and so I widened my options. and before i went to see her, I also found a nicely folded paper inside my bike with black dirt inside it.  And my reaction was i dont care, its just nothing and i only believe in the Buddhas , and if anyone tries anything it will be bounced back to them.

All of this happened before I actually decided to see the tarot reader.  She recomended me to get my sister a crystal dorje, for which i had to go to the other guy, and he was like a hindu sort of tantrik, i had a little chat with him and bought it for my sister, but still dont know how to use it properly. A guidance on that would also be very nice on your part. So there you have it, thats all i did with the black magic etc. Also after everytime I met the tarot reader and the other guy during the talks i felt strong and after i left i felt soo like drained and stuff off energy.

I myself have felt the need at times to consult with a guru, but no access I have.
From when i was young even before I came to know of the buddhist teachings i have been able to virtually learn and find out the teachings myself by just the power of pondering on thoughts its effects etc. Even the tarot reader and the other guy gave a weird look and felt confused as if you were trying to put your hands in my pocket and i stopped you but you didnt knew i could know it or stop you. That exact look was from them.
And i have been chanting all right, when my sister started chanting even she improved, but the point is instead of a car running you over it just brushes you, you still are hurt physically and mentally. And thats what happened , she has improved but is still in pain at times really a lot.

So you all understand that I neither was or am involved into any sort of black magic, or such things, but enough is enough, how much can I take , and do you or i really want to find it out? i don't think so, and I am happy that a cure is available to such things in this branch of Buddhism as (its my personal feeling) I just wont follow anything thats against Buddhism in my current knowledge.
Buddha is great and so is Buddhism and its followers. I am happy to be a Buddhist, and at times i do act a bit bad or wrong, which i am sorry for too, but this is just too much for me.

Sometimes i feel to just leave and start a new life, and somehow i have an extremely strong urge to go to laddakh on my bike its like i can almost feel it pulling my consciousness from inside towards itself ,  but its like a come and go feeling.

i dont know why I have said somethings here which may not be related to my main concern right now, but since I have already typed it, i might as well post it.

Also the image of the green tara really helps a lot, you guys wont believe the effect it had on me, i can actually feel the energy, yes feel the energy going right through me.


thats all i can say right now before going crazy thinking how much  I lost during my life,  so thats it for now.


Om Mani Padme Hum!
May All Be Well And Happy!

[John]

I don`t think you necessarily need to move to Ladakh and start a new life there, but if you could take a vacation and go there for a couple of days and meet a lama would be great.

[spiritnoname]

  Maybe you should take into consideration what got you into this situation in the first place and rectify your conduct, it would prevent further ripening of karma and stop the process of creating it.

 If you ask the enlightened Dharmapala for help I think there should be a certain amount of fear because they are more likely to bash you around for bad conduct than others.  I imagine some of our requests to them come out like a child asking their parent to kill their sibling and it invites stern correction.

 

 

[wmw111]

What if he created the cause 567 lifetime ago , how is he supposed to recall what he did?

Plus better to get slapped by Dharmapala ( Setrap throws monks or slaps them around out of compassion ) or the like of HH Zong Rinpoche ( Zong Rinpoche beats students to ripen karma ) , and the harm stops . As opposed to getting spiritually attacked the whole time .

[spiritnoname]

 Because past karmas need similar conditions to ripen, it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.

 I'm not saying you shouldn't ask the enlightened Dharmapala for help, definitely they are a good influence, however we should be more critical of our actions than that of others, the enlightened Dharmapala will be. And if the Dharmapala are going to use wrathful means against someone committing unwholesome actions it's going to be the one asking for help first.

 If I was a drug dealer I wouldn't ask the police to help me when a drug deal turns bad without expecting to be arrested, likewise if I was person committing bad actions I wouldn't ask the Dharmapala for help without expecting correction.   

[wmw111]

If you don't ask an Enlightened Dharmapala for help , who do you ask, wayside shrines deities who have agendas and want to hook you in more? I rather trust something that will not harm me .


So what is the cause for the spiritual attacks ?

[spiritnoname]

 It is best to ask a enlightened Dharmapala I think, but be proactive in giving up your bad conduct and wrong views that harm yourself and others so the Dharmapala don't have to correct you in unpleasant ways.

 What is the cause for others to attack you in any way? To be threatening to what others hold dear is the cause for others to attack you with anger.

 I don't know that I would assume this is a spiritual attack, in fact I don't think it's a good idea to lead one to think it is unless there are unmistakable signs because it is the equivalent of telling a blind person that a very quiet insane person is following them with a knife. Paranoia is not fun, and causes people to lash out at innocent individuals.

 That someone attempted black magic is not an unmistakable sign, as many are incapable of doing more than cultivating their own mental afflictions.

   

 

[Hot Spot]

Kaimlove - go find yourself a spiritual teacher and devote yourself to practice dharma diligently.  Generate compassion, great compassion.  No evil spirit can harm one with great compassion or with strong guru devotion. Tarot card readers may have some pyschic powers but their view is short-term.  A qualified buddhist master will definitely be able to help you.  Are you near any buddhist temples where you can take refuge? 

[Hot Spot]

Kaimlove - I was listening to my guru's tape on Lama Tsong Khapa practice and would highly recommend you to do his prayers a follows:

Mig-me tse-wai ter-chen Chen-re-zig

You are Avalokiteshvara, great treasure of compassion,

Not aimed at true existence,

Dri-me kyen-pai wang-po Jam-pal-yang

And Manjushri, master of flawless wisdom.

Du-pung ma-lu jom-dze Sang-wa-dag

As well as Vajrapani, destroyer of hordes of demons without exception.

Gang-chen k'a-pai tsug-gyan Tsong-kha-pa

O Tsong Khapa, crown jewel of the sages of the Land of Snows,

Lo-zang Drag-pai shab-la sol-wa-deb.

Losang Dragpa, I make requests at your feet. (7, 21, 100...x)

 

Tsong Khapa mantra: OM AH GURU VAJRADHARA SUMATI KIRTI SIDDHI HUNG

(as many times as possible).