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Joey
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 06:27:52 AM »

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The whole idea is everybody wants to be happy (including yours truly) and thus with that in mind, we do what makes others happy first and in return, we become happy.  If our first concern is self, this may lead to grasping which will then lead to unhappiness.  So best to give first then take later.

Giving first , I dispute that somewhat , perhaps some can give first and some can give later. People who are more happier will be more likely to give first IMHO.

To push the idea a bit more, if all of us are interdependent there is no difference between yours and my happiness : ) . There is no separation between my happiness and yours .

Personally I feel that giving back or practicing only when you feel happy is quite shallow. If we are capable we should always try to use the POV that Wai Meng has pointed out. On a deeper level, happiness and pain are just both ends of the spectrum so in reality there's not much of a difference. When you realize that your cravings will lessen a bit..
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 12:09:59 AM »

Did you guys know it doesn't matter where you scratch on your body when you have an itch?
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 01:31:39 AM »

Did you guys know it doesn't matter where you scratch on your body when you have an itch?

er no it did matter to me
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 01:03:31 PM »

Yes, we are all interdependent - but not all of us are ready to accept this concept. So a little difficult to get them to see it this way (ie your happiness and my happiness are the same). Until then, I still think it better to give first and take later.  In your case WMW111, I will take from you first and give back later - LOL!
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 05:05:05 PM »

It did matter? Shocked  Weird.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 05:21:39 PM »

Yes, we are all interdependent - but not all of us are ready to accept this concept. So a little difficult to get them to see it this way (ie your happiness and my happiness are the same). Until then, I still think it better to give first and take later.  In your case WMW111, I will take from you first and give back later - LOL!

and besides, remembering that everyone wants to be happy and avoid suffering the way I do changed the way i handled them and now i am very likeable in office =P to me its better to make the other person feel happy and warm than otherwise
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